Here Goes Nothing
I have received a tip from an insider within China. What I was sent is a link to a government document which is still hosted on a government web server. I have downloaded it and done as much due diligence on it as I am able, and the results are amazing. This document contains a much deeper level of information on a Chinese gymnast than was previously available. I am in the process of asking trusted helpers to mirror this document and vouch for it.
1984 in Prime Time
What I am going to do is this. At exactly 1800 Eastern Standard (2300 GMT), I will post a direct link to a primary document hosted on a government server in China. Then, we will have a race. We will see how many people can download and verify this document before it is wiped out. And for those watching, you will have a chance at a glimpse of our possible shared future: the erasure of an entire identity.
At What Risk?
I may end up with egg on my face here. It is possible the folks at the Great Firewall will detect my Internet activity and delete the document before I release it to the public. I am willing to take this risk. I have a copy, I will swear to its authenticity. I have uploaded it to wikileaks with a delayed release. I believe the opportunity is worth the risk. I hope you will join me.
-stryde.hax
8 comments:
Let's get to the rub of this affair. First, let's make two plausible assumptions.
1. The Chinese gymnasts are underaged and the authorities knew it from the beginning.
2. The Chinese authorities will never admit their fraud and will do anything and everything to cover it up and pull the wool over the world.
[The number of times in sports history when cheating and/or doping was acknowledged by the involved athlete or country at the time of discovery is minuscule and even less so when a country's pride is on the line. Also keep in mind that another Chinese gymnast has already admitted to participating as underaged in competitions several years ago.]
HERE ARE THE RELEVANT QUESTIONS.
1. If YOU are the Chinese authorities trying to cover this scandal up, what would you do? [Pretend your day job is to hoodwink the world in this affair, what would you do?] In other words, what activities would you undertake, what documents would you try to revise, and what excuses would you propose in order to fool the world?
2. How would the reality created by the Chinese authorities to cover their tracks differ from the reality we are now seeing. In other words, is there any way of distinguishing the real world from a created virtual fake world? Can the Chinese create a mirage so real-like that nobody can prove it is a mirage? Can Big Brother fool the world and get away with it?
I think that's the point, garyandyvonne. What evidence can anyone have when the information is controlled by a small group of people who are in charge? When we have little or no control over information to prove our case, we will be disproved as needed. The government can simply say that it didn't happen. Frankly I'm concerned about power the American government likely has over internet records, let alone China. It doesn't matter where you live, if the government gets too big it will begin to take control away from the people. Of course, there are different levels of this depending on which country we are talking about, but the result is the same: censorship, human rights violations, and generalized oppression. I hope this website can further the dialogue regarding censorship. Thanks for all your work, Stryde!
Hot. I can't wait.
Isn't it quite obvious that the US government (CIA) hacked into all these Chinese websites to change the girls' ages?
This elaborate scheme was drawn up months ago in preparation for the Olympics.
This is a very interesting and complicated story. The Chinese state has a definite interest in the well-being of the child as does the family. I am not sure whether privacy rights of the kind described here form a part of Chinese domestic law. It certainly seems that in a communist state system there is no privacy against the state. Is the privacy of a child an international norm to which China has acceded - I do not know that area of the law.
Do US rules on child privacy rights cover a blogger in the US? Yes. With regard to accessing documents that are in China? Interesting. Imagine that the girl brings a suit against the blogger for violation of privacy in a US court under US law. I guess the US court would have to think whether US privacy law applies to this US act which leads to a violation overseas. I think the court could say that, but then the question would be whether the accessing of public available documents in China and the serious suspicions of state fraud would lead a judge to uphold the suit. Act of State doctrine might come in here too by the US judge not wanting to question a Chinese decision in China.
Assuming the blogger is state side and has managed to access only publicly available documents, it would seem to me that the Chinese state would have determined that this information was public information. The removal of the records that show the difference in age for her would appear to raise issues about the state’s willingness to fudge.
Another level is the willingness of the girl’s parents to go along with the alleged fictions - after all, the father and mother know the day she was actually born no matter what state “reinterpretation of history” (like the air-brushing out of Trotsky from various Bolshevik pictures). Even communist ideology cannot overcome the physical laws of the universe that say that people who are born are born on a given day. The parental and state collusion would suggest to me that a guardian-ad-litem should be appointed (if there is such a thing or equivalent in China) to protect the interests of the child against the state and against the parents. I would say, that the IOC should also examine whether - in a situation of evident conflict of interest among the Chinese government and parents in a communist system where everyone is a part of the state - the IOC should appoint an independent guardian-ad-litem whose focus is on the interests of the child in the context of the IOC investigation. Such an investigation by an international body I would imagine is a private administrative process.
I would think that the Court of Arbitration of Sports arbitrators should be the ones in front of which this dispute could be examined with impartiality. Maybe that should be the recourse after the investigation.
I do fear that investigation is really about waiting til the games have passed and attention has gone elsewhere.
As to whether this would happen if the Americans did not have the silver, I think it depends on how voracious is the focus of countries on gymnastics. In America, the focus is extremely intense on this area since the stunning Nadia Comaneci domination as many of you know. I would think that the willingness to pay attention to the complaint - as with many things - relates to the level of perceived power and money associated with the complaining country. US television deals are a big part of IOC revenue so it gets the attention. That is the way the invisible hand works it seems to me - not that I am proud of it but that sure is what it looks like.
As to the blogger going through channels, you know I have great respect for channels. Channels are institutions that have power and the question usually comes up as to what happens when you go through channels. The institutions have other interests that may go against the actual truth getting out and something being done. So the blogger who goes up the chain of command, as in many areas, finds that nothing happens. But, once it is on the internet or in the press, the dynamic in “channels” changes with that hydraulic pressure.
I also think that us old net citizens should look at the Google apparently censoring as further evidence of just how corporate the net is. No one has any of that free spirit any more except to make money, money, and money. As Lenin supposedly said, capitalists would sell you the rope to hang them with (Was that Lenin? Old vague memory from college classes).
Speaking in defense of The Little One, The Incomprable Ms. Deng Linlin
I am a fan of fair play just like the next person, but W H Y ???????? were they allowed to begin competing if there were this many questions about their ages in the first place. To let them get all the way through the competion, have them WIN it, and only then start-up with this ” Gee, does’nt she look kind of young ” business, is just IDIOTIC.
You know, had the US team actually beatin the Chinese Team then none of this would have been an issue, Corporate America would have been content, money would have been made, and everyone would have been Happy. But I guess we can’t sell as many boxes of “Wheaties” with young smiling Chinese faces on the cover now can we???
If they had disqualified these “Little Girls” prior to the beginning of the competion then that would have been FINE. But to let them begin and finish competing before starting this witch-hunt is complete NON-SENSE
My “problem” is that they ( The Chinese Team ) were allowed to begin competing in the first place. And Since they were ALLOWED TO BEGIN that in my mind is where the case is closed on this.
Since the governing body of the olympics deemed that they were suitable to begin the competion, and they infact worked there little under-aged rearends off and WON the competion. I find it incredibly Chicken Bleep and Offensive that everyone involved decided to take a wait and see what happens approach to this. Had they ( China ) finished in 2nd pl, or lower, then the big powerful US team would have been content with this and not raised a fuss at all. They may have even complimented the poor little Chinese girls for putting up a ” Heck of a fight ” all the while snickering behind their backs ” We Kicked their Butt’s ”
Ms. Karolyi said it herself ” Bring them on, we will beat them at any age “. OOOOPPPPSSSS!!!! Ms. Karolyi, you got your butt kicked and cannot deal with it. So now you and your band of Stuck-up Brats are doing the only thing that you can do, MOPE and POUT and cry CHEATERS !!!
So in the future, should the USA want to avoid another butt kicking on the world stage they may want to file there grievances a little SOONER and not wait to see if they get an outcome that they were not expecting.
THIS IS SOUR GRAPES, MAKE NO MISTAKE.
I am a fan of Deng Linlin too. That's why I don't want her to get hurt. Just as I don't want other small girls to get hurt by big governments with an agenda of showing just how big of superpowers they are.
To all Deng Linlin fans, and He Kexin fans, and all gymnastics fan around the world, everybody here loves these girls, no matter what their age. They have shown immense talent and exemplary dedication. Their routines had the whole world clapping. This is not an American or world plot against these girls. This is about our safety as citizens of the world, this about who can we trust in this electronic age. This is about governments tempering with electronic information as far as erasing somebody's identity.
We are NOT calling for these girls to step forward and tell us their real age. We are calling for the Chinese officials to stop erasing the incriminating documents, stop offering shaky explanations, and stop interfering with young girls lives. A great superpower ,as China pretends it is, would have come on top without lying and potentially destroying these young gymnasts lives.
Note: I am Romanian who recently moved to the US. After many Romanian girls confessed in 2001-2004 that they competed underage at previous gymnastics Worlds and Olympics, I thought Romanian gymnasts will be hated and embarrassed all over the world. I have learned however that true gymnastics fans still love them as much they used to, still put up websites in their honor, and still cheer for Romania and also, still worry about their health and well being. I am a firm believer that we will look back years from now at these girls routines and still have the same admiration for their skill and artistry.
io, Deng LinLin's DOB appears to be 4/21/92 pretty consistently, after Baidu and Google searches.
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